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		<title>By: George Geder</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Geder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Thomas,

Your Courage, Grace and Integrity comes forth in this post. I salute and applaud you for your words.

Insomuch as this is about you, it is also about the FGS. They need to publicly step up their game and provide transparency. 

The FGS must tell you/us why your topics were REJECTED. Your list includes some of the most important and relevant subjects on the minds of genealogists today. Everybody knows that you can deliver the goods.

I take issue with the revisionist term &quot;non-invitees&quot;.  James Howard Meredith wasn&#039;t &quot;non-admitted&quot; to the  to the University of Mississippi. Rosa Parks wasn&#039;t an issue of &quot;non-seating&quot; on that bus in Alabama. My point here - and this is me talking, not Thomas - is that  we mustn&#039;t sugar-coat or soft-pedal around a situation so blatant and disingenuous as this &quot;rejection&quot;.

There&#039;s some pain going around in the genealogy lecture/presentation/workshop circuit. Some gifted and talented folks are being rejected, excluded, marginalized, and so on.

Thomas MacEntee will not go hungry from this rejection. Nor will he lose any respect or standing in the genealogy community. Simply, we must use this event as a lesson in looking out for our genealogy peeps and be vigilant for any transgressions that may come to past.

Peace &amp; Blessings,
&quot;Guided by the Ancestors&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Thomas,</p>
<p>Your Courage, Grace and Integrity comes forth in this post. I salute and applaud you for your words.</p>
<p>Insomuch as this is about you, it is also about the FGS. They need to publicly step up their game and provide transparency. </p>
<p>The FGS must tell you/us why your topics were REJECTED. Your list includes some of the most important and relevant subjects on the minds of genealogists today. Everybody knows that you can deliver the goods.</p>
<p>I take issue with the revisionist term &#8220;non-invitees&#8221;.  James Howard Meredith wasn&#8217;t &#8220;non-admitted&#8221; to the  to the University of Mississippi. Rosa Parks wasn&#8217;t an issue of &#8220;non-seating&#8221; on that bus in Alabama. My point here &#8211; and this is me talking, not Thomas &#8211; is that  we mustn&#8217;t sugar-coat or soft-pedal around a situation so blatant and disingenuous as this &#8220;rejection&#8221;.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s some pain going around in the genealogy lecture/presentation/workshop circuit. Some gifted and talented folks are being rejected, excluded, marginalized, and so on.</p>
<p>Thomas MacEntee will not go hungry from this rejection. Nor will he lose any respect or standing in the genealogy community. Simply, we must use this event as a lesson in looking out for our genealogy peeps and be vigilant for any transgressions that may come to past.</p>
<p>Peace &amp; Blessings,<br />
&#8220;Guided by the Ancestors&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Celia Lewis</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11917</link>
		<dc:creator>Celia Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 18:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup. You shine like a gold light, Thomas.  Keep on the way you&#039;re keeping on!   And thank you for your well-worded philosophy of your life in genealogy.  Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. You shine like a gold light, Thomas.  Keep on the way you&#8217;re keeping on!   And thank you for your well-worded philosophy of your life in genealogy.  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Petersen</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11916</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 03:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love hearing you speak on those topics to pick up some ideas foy my local society. Surely I&#039;ll hear you sometime somewhere next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love hearing you speak on those topics to pick up some ideas foy my local society. Surely I&#8217;ll hear you sometime somewhere next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean Wilcox Hibben</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Wilcox Hibben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 17:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still waiting for my rejection letter (I never got one last year). I think one of the important messages here is that &quot;name,&quot; &quot;notoriety,&quot; or position on the board and organization are not determining factors. Quality of subject and needs of the whole are what counts (of course, that can only be determined during or after the fact). For some of us, the distance is a factor in our attendance and if we aren&#039;t speaking and, as such, compensated for our time and some of our travel and accommodation costs, we simply can&#039;t justify the journey to attend the conference. I hope that this absence will not be interpreted as sour grapes but, instead, is an issue of finances.
Thank you, Thomas, for letting us know that those not chosen are in the best of company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for my rejection letter (I never got one last year). I think one of the important messages here is that &#8220;name,&#8221; &#8220;notoriety,&#8221; or position on the board and organization are not determining factors. Quality of subject and needs of the whole are what counts (of course, that can only be determined during or after the fact). For some of us, the distance is a factor in our attendance and if we aren&#8217;t speaking and, as such, compensated for our time and some of our travel and accommodation costs, we simply can&#8217;t justify the journey to attend the conference. I hope that this absence will not be interpreted as sour grapes but, instead, is an issue of finances.<br />
Thank you, Thomas, for letting us know that those not chosen are in the best of company.</p>
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		<title>By: Rorey Cathcart</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11914</link>
		<dc:creator>Rorey Cathcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may be naive but it seems to me that a simple disclaimer to non-invitees about the need, from time to time, to reopen the selection process due cancellations as part of a rejection letter would serve everyone&#039;s interests. Non-invitees would get the timely notification they respectfully deserve and it would alleviate the &#039;awkward&#039; in the few instances where selection committee has to reach back out to a non-invitee.

Thanks as always Thomas for your willingness to address the good, bad and the ugly head on with grace. 

Thoughts anyone, on a speaker feedback systems for conference organizers in the vein of &quot;Rate Your Professor&quot;? I, for one, was sorely disappointed in a couple of FGS2012 speakers. I would have loved to attend Thomas&#039; coverage of the same topic for a comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be naive but it seems to me that a simple disclaimer to non-invitees about the need, from time to time, to reopen the selection process due cancellations as part of a rejection letter would serve everyone&#8217;s interests. Non-invitees would get the timely notification they respectfully deserve and it would alleviate the &#8216;awkward&#8217; in the few instances where selection committee has to reach back out to a non-invitee.</p>
<p>Thanks as always Thomas for your willingness to address the good, bad and the ugly head on with grace. </p>
<p>Thoughts anyone, on a speaker feedback systems for conference organizers in the vein of &#8220;Rate Your Professor&#8221;? I, for one, was sorely disappointed in a couple of FGS2012 speakers. I would have loved to attend Thomas&#8217; coverage of the same topic for a comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Fonkert</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Fonkert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the logic of waiting to notify the non-invitees (prefer the term over &quot;rejectees&quot;) until after the invitees have had a chance to accept. However, this policy made more sense in the day of snail mail. Here&#039;s the problem, as demonstrated by Thomas&#039;s blog and Facebook post: in the social media age, the non-invitees learn that they were not invited as soon as the first person uses social media to give away the secret that the invites have gone out. The fear of insulting the non-invitees is also exaggerated. Spots on a national conference program are in such high demand, that most aspiring speakers will be excited to get invited in either the first or second wave on invites. And, the reality is, those in the second wave will know they weren&#039;t invited in the first wave -- UNLESS, invitees are instructed to not announce their good news until all invites have been accepted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the logic of waiting to notify the non-invitees (prefer the term over &#8220;rejectees&#8221;) until after the invitees have had a chance to accept. However, this policy made more sense in the day of snail mail. Here&#8217;s the problem, as demonstrated by Thomas&#8217;s blog and Facebook post: in the social media age, the non-invitees learn that they were not invited as soon as the first person uses social media to give away the secret that the invites have gone out. The fear of insulting the non-invitees is also exaggerated. Spots on a national conference program are in such high demand, that most aspiring speakers will be excited to get invited in either the first or second wave on invites. And, the reality is, those in the second wave will know they weren&#8217;t invited in the first wave &#8212; UNLESS, invitees are instructed to not announce their good news until all invites have been accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariann Regan</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11912</link>
		<dc:creator>Mariann Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 00:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really brave post. It is refreshing to read such frank and honest comments. I like the way you say that a person&#039;s events in life are in accordance with their &quot;efforts and abilities in combination with luck and providence.&quot; You make it very clear, without casting blame, that &quot;luck&quot; often turns out to be &quot;the system,&quot; with all the human error involved in group dynamics.

I&#039;m only a spectator in the genealogical conference system, but I do have a lot of experience in the academic &quot;system,&quot; where similar decisions are made, and I&#039;ve seen many decisions turn on strange or eccentric causes, one vote more or less. It gets a bit wild in those meetings. You might enjoy reading the novel &quot;Straight Man&quot; by Richard Russo, a hilarious story of a department head at a university.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really brave post. It is refreshing to read such frank and honest comments. I like the way you say that a person&#8217;s events in life are in accordance with their &#8220;efforts and abilities in combination with luck and providence.&#8221; You make it very clear, without casting blame, that &#8220;luck&#8221; often turns out to be &#8220;the system,&#8221; with all the human error involved in group dynamics.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only a spectator in the genealogical conference system, but I do have a lot of experience in the academic &#8220;system,&#8221; where similar decisions are made, and I&#8217;ve seen many decisions turn on strange or eccentric causes, one vote more or less. It gets a bit wild in those meetings. You might enjoy reading the novel &#8220;Straight Man&#8221; by Richard Russo, a hilarious story of a department head at a university.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Broviak</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11911</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam Broviak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many people have wonderful information to share at conferences. Unfortunately there are only so many slots for formal sessions. I think this is why the &quot;unconference&quot; approach I&#039;ve seen at other conferences seems to work so well. While the main conference is going on, organizers offer an unconference tract. A board with time slots is placed outside the room. And each session for the unconference is determined by the attendees who post the topic they want to hear about in any open time slot. Then they show up and announce the topic and any info they wanted to share and then an open discussion begins with whoever else showed up at that time.

The benefits of this approach are that it offers an alternative during each time slot for those who cannot find a session that interests them. And it allows an open sharing of information from every attendee. The format is also much more engaging and promotes networking and increases learning.

I am not sure if any of the genealogy conferences have taken advantage of an unconference tract, but I see it beginning to be implemented at other types of conferences. (The association I belong to for my profession also hosts unconferences as stand-alone events.) If FGS allowed this type of tract at their conference you would probably have the chance to share some of the info you had planned on sharing and even better, instead of just speaking, you would become part of an engaged and active learning session related to your topic where the other participants add their knowledge and experience to the discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have wonderful information to share at conferences. Unfortunately there are only so many slots for formal sessions. I think this is why the &#8220;unconference&#8221; approach I&#8217;ve seen at other conferences seems to work so well. While the main conference is going on, organizers offer an unconference tract. A board with time slots is placed outside the room. And each session for the unconference is determined by the attendees who post the topic they want to hear about in any open time slot. Then they show up and announce the topic and any info they wanted to share and then an open discussion begins with whoever else showed up at that time.</p>
<p>The benefits of this approach are that it offers an alternative during each time slot for those who cannot find a session that interests them. And it allows an open sharing of information from every attendee. The format is also much more engaging and promotes networking and increases learning.</p>
<p>I am not sure if any of the genealogy conferences have taken advantage of an unconference tract, but I see it beginning to be implemented at other types of conferences. (The association I belong to for my profession also hosts unconferences as stand-alone events.) If FGS allowed this type of tract at their conference you would probably have the chance to share some of the info you had planned on sharing and even better, instead of just speaking, you would become part of an engaged and active learning session related to your topic where the other participants add their knowledge and experience to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: David H Miller</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11910</link>
		<dc:creator>David H Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On one hand I&#039;m terribly disappointed as you are one of the more energetic speakers, and probably the most foremost speaker on utilizing modern technology at our fingertips in genealogy.  I do try to catch you whenever I can.  I can only hope that if you did not make the cut, they must have one exceptional program put together!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand I&#8217;m terribly disappointed as you are one of the more energetic speakers, and probably the most foremost speaker on utilizing modern technology at our fingertips in genealogy.  I do try to catch you whenever I can.  I can only hope that if you did not make the cut, they must have one exceptional program put together!</p>
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		<title>By: Denise Levenick</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/speaking-fgs-2013/#comment-11909</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise Levenick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 18:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right, Amy, and you and Josh clarify what I was trying to say:  It sounds as though, in many cases, a committee works down/through a list of accepted proposals to fill the schedule. By A-list, B-list I was trying to convey the idea that there may be a first round of acceptances and then a second round to fill in gaps where speakers were unable to accept an invitation to speak. 

It sounds like this is one model for conference scheduling; another being that used by SCGS where a schedule of dates for proposals due, notifications set, contracts due, etc. is part of the Call for Papers Notice.

From my somewhat limited speaking experience, I admit that it is very difficult to plan in advance knowing my conference proposals are &quot;out there&quot; and having no idea when, or if, any kind of notification will be sent out. In submitting a proposal, I feel a certain obligation to honor my request to speak, to be available on the conference dates, and to be able to travel (barring an emergency). If I found I was unable to speak, I would withdraw my proposal from consideration. I appreciate conference committees that take time to share their proposal process, to acknowledge receipt of my proposal and to notify me of their decision in a timely manner. It builds anticipation of an organized and courteous conference team and a successful conference experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Amy, and you and Josh clarify what I was trying to say:  It sounds as though, in many cases, a committee works down/through a list of accepted proposals to fill the schedule. By A-list, B-list I was trying to convey the idea that there may be a first round of acceptances and then a second round to fill in gaps where speakers were unable to accept an invitation to speak. </p>
<p>It sounds like this is one model for conference scheduling; another being that used by SCGS where a schedule of dates for proposals due, notifications set, contracts due, etc. is part of the Call for Papers Notice.</p>
<p>From my somewhat limited speaking experience, I admit that it is very difficult to plan in advance knowing my conference proposals are &#8220;out there&#8221; and having no idea when, or if, any kind of notification will be sent out. In submitting a proposal, I feel a certain obligation to honor my request to speak, to be available on the conference dates, and to be able to travel (barring an emergency). If I found I was unable to speak, I would withdraw my proposal from consideration. I appreciate conference committees that take time to share their proposal process, to acknowledge receipt of my proposal and to notify me of their decision in a timely manner. It builds anticipation of an organized and courteous conference team and a successful conference experience.</p>
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