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		<title>By: familytreegirl</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6467</link>
		<dc:creator>familytreegirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @GeorgeGeder: Open Thread Thursday - Blended Families &#124; GeneaBloggers http://t.co/dldGti4 via @geneabloggers&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @GeorgeGeder: Open Thread Thursday &#8211; Blended Families | GeneaBloggers <a href="http://t.co/dldGti4" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/dldGti4</a> via @geneabloggers</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6465</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lowcountry Africana</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6466</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowcountry Africana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @GeorgeGeder: Open Thread Thursday &#8211; Blended Families | GeneaBloggers <a href="http://t.co/dldGti4" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/dldGti4</a> via @geneabloggers</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: George Geder</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6463</link>
		<dc:creator>George Geder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 09:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Open Thread Thursday &#8211; Blended Families | GeneaBloggers <a href="http://t.co/dldGti4" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/dldGti4</a> via @geneabloggers</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: TransDutch</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6464</link>
		<dc:creator>TransDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Checked my software (iFamily).  Had no problem setting up a child with two fathers.  (Software did ask me if I was sure, and I clicked yes.)  I could only select Natural/Adopted/Step/Foster or &quot;Not Related.&quot;

I&#039;ve set the default couple relationship to &quot;spouse/spouse&quot; instead of &quot;husband/wife&quot;

iFamily does offer the option of an &quot;Associated Person.&quot;  That is, not a parent/child, but someone you still want to draw a line to.  I&#039;ve used it twice.  Once for a slave, and once for a business partner.

An &quot;associated person&quot; can also be associated with multiple people, however, they don&#039;t seem to appear on most of the reports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checked my software (iFamily).  Had no problem setting up a child with two fathers.  (Software did ask me if I was sure, and I clicked yes.)  I could only select Natural/Adopted/Step/Foster or &#8220;Not Related.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve set the default couple relationship to &#8220;spouse/spouse&#8221; instead of &#8220;husband/wife&#8221;</p>
<p>iFamily does offer the option of an &#8220;Associated Person.&#8221;  That is, not a parent/child, but someone you still want to draw a line to.  I&#8217;ve used it twice.  Once for a slave, and once for a business partner.</p>
<p>An &#8220;associated person&#8221; can also be associated with multiple people, however, they don&#8217;t seem to appear on most of the reports.</p>
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		<title>By: George Geder</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6462</link>
		<dc:creator>George Geder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Thomas for the mention!

“it’s genealogy software. Not family history software”. True dat! 

So, should there be a separate &#039;family history software&#039;? At least one of the major companies hooks us by using the word &#039;Family&#039; in its name. And that&#039;s the place where my rant comes from. There doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be two separate categories of software.

BTW Diana, Family Tree Builder displays siblings, half-siblings AND step-siblings on the main page without a fuss! And that&#039;s the joy of this conversation - sharing!

Wow! I re-read all of the comments and the #1 concern is documenting &#039;Family&#039;. The software manufacturers need to recognize!

Peace,
&quot;Guided by the Ancestors&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Thomas for the mention!</p>
<p>“it’s genealogy software. Not family history software”. True dat! </p>
<p>So, should there be a separate &#8216;family history software&#8217;? At least one of the major companies hooks us by using the word &#8216;Family&#8217; in its name. And that&#8217;s the place where my rant comes from. There doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be two separate categories of software.</p>
<p>BTW Diana, Family Tree Builder displays siblings, half-siblings AND step-siblings on the main page without a fuss! And that&#8217;s the joy of this conversation &#8211; sharing!</p>
<p>Wow! I re-read all of the comments and the #1 concern is documenting &#8216;Family&#8217;. The software manufacturers need to recognize!</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
&#8220;Guided by the Ancestors&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Robideaux</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6461</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Robideaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the death of his wife, my paternal grandfather chose to adopt out, legally, the four youngest of his nine children. Two of these were identical twin girls. I have struggled with how to show these children through several versions of &quot;My Family Tree&quot; software. 

When they were adopted, not only did the children&#039;s last names change, but because they were young, their first names were also changed by the adoptive parents . And then one of the twin girls was given to another family (not legally) to raise and she went by that family&#039;s last name. 

I have never been able to settle on whether to call the children by their original given names, or by their adopted names, etc. Maybe I would like to show both set of families, the natural and the adoptive. Is that possible? And on and on. You get the drift!  

Yes, family history soft ware needs some modifications when it comes to ways to show extended family relationships.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the death of his wife, my paternal grandfather chose to adopt out, legally, the four youngest of his nine children. Two of these were identical twin girls. I have struggled with how to show these children through several versions of &#8220;My Family Tree&#8221; software. </p>
<p>When they were adopted, not only did the children&#8217;s last names change, but because they were young, their first names were also changed by the adoptive parents . And then one of the twin girls was given to another family (not legally) to raise and she went by that family&#8217;s last name. </p>
<p>I have never been able to settle on whether to call the children by their original given names, or by their adopted names, etc. Maybe I would like to show both set of families, the natural and the adoptive. Is that possible? And on and on. You get the drift!  </p>
<p>Yes, family history soft ware needs some modifications when it comes to ways to show extended family relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6460</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 23:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really like this whole conversation because even though, as someone pointed out &quot;it’s genealogy software. Not family history software&quot; I think there is no reason not to expect both!  

One of the reason I currently use TMG (the Master Genealogist) is the simple reason that when I am displaying my Grandpa Quick&#039;s screen there is a box labeled &quot;Children&quot; and it shows my mom and her 2 (half) brothers.  In other softwares that I&#039;ve used I always had to pick a spouse and it would then display the children of that couple only.  My mom and her brothers are a family - they grew up together and never knew anything else really.  I like a software that lets me see it like that.

I haven&#039;t experimented much with other types of issues - but I do agree that software companies need to be proactive in addressing them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this whole conversation because even though, as someone pointed out &#8220;it’s genealogy software. Not family history software&#8221; I think there is no reason not to expect both!  </p>
<p>One of the reason I currently use TMG (the Master Genealogist) is the simple reason that when I am displaying my Grandpa Quick&#8217;s screen there is a box labeled &#8220;Children&#8221; and it shows my mom and her 2 (half) brothers.  In other softwares that I&#8217;ve used I always had to pick a spouse and it would then display the children of that couple only.  My mom and her brothers are a family &#8211; they grew up together and never knew anything else really.  I like a software that lets me see it like that.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t experimented much with other types of issues &#8211; but I do agree that software companies need to be proactive in addressing them!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Petersen</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6459</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like it or not, software manufacturers need to address blended families and less-than-traditionally-legal partnerships. Many couples have children outside of marital bonds, so something is not right about entering &quot;husband&quot; and &quot;wife&quot; for an unmarried couple. For example, the celebrity Jolie-Pitt family (who happen to be cousins of a friend of mine). The software should provide options for other than &quot;husband&quot; and &quot;wife&quot; regardless of the sexual orientation of the couple. Being tied down to traditional unions is restrictive for genealogists attempting to record the truth. And having children outside of marriage is nothing that just came along during our lifetimes.

I would also like to see the software companies provide an option, where, instead of always having an option of adding a spouse, provide a field for &quot;Never Married.&quot; So, once that is confirmed, a researcher doesn&#039;t keep going around in circles trying to find a possible spouse.

Same goes for providing a field like &quot;Died as Infant&quot; - you don&#039;t always know when the baby died, but the child never reached adulthood. So add that as a database field so a researcher doesn&#039;t keep looking for this person in a census 30 years later. Another good field would be for &quot;died without issue&quot; for childless persons.

A lot could be done to enhance the software programs, all it takes is some thinking outside the box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like it or not, software manufacturers need to address blended families and less-than-traditionally-legal partnerships. Many couples have children outside of marital bonds, so something is not right about entering &#8220;husband&#8221; and &#8220;wife&#8221; for an unmarried couple. For example, the celebrity Jolie-Pitt family (who happen to be cousins of a friend of mine). The software should provide options for other than &#8220;husband&#8221; and &#8220;wife&#8221; regardless of the sexual orientation of the couple. Being tied down to traditional unions is restrictive for genealogists attempting to record the truth. And having children outside of marriage is nothing that just came along during our lifetimes.</p>
<p>I would also like to see the software companies provide an option, where, instead of always having an option of adding a spouse, provide a field for &#8220;Never Married.&#8221; So, once that is confirmed, a researcher doesn&#8217;t keep going around in circles trying to find a possible spouse.</p>
<p>Same goes for providing a field like &#8220;Died as Infant&#8221; &#8211; you don&#8217;t always know when the baby died, but the child never reached adulthood. So add that as a database field so a researcher doesn&#8217;t keep looking for this person in a census 30 years later. Another good field would be for &#8220;died without issue&#8221; for childless persons.</p>
<p>A lot could be done to enhance the software programs, all it takes is some thinking outside the box.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/open-thread-thursday-blended-families/#comment-6458</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many perspectives on this.  
Genealogically I want the software to reflect the realities - cultural and legal - of the families we research. Software manufacturers should have no problem with the database aspects of this, though reporting and charting modules would be challenging.
From the research side I long for a program that allows me to link individuals without forcing them into a parent/child or spousal relationship. It would allow me to connect families that migrate together, individuals recorded in the same households in census records,  or act as witnesses for legal documents, non-custodial guardians (women frequently were not the legal guardians of their children), etc. I&#039;d be delighted with a report that would simply list linked individuals. 
Researcher defined links would work from a family history perspective as well. One could link individuals to their families of choice while still showing their families of origin or show friendships that are more important than familial relationships in some cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many perspectives on this.<br />
Genealogically I want the software to reflect the realities &#8211; cultural and legal &#8211; of the families we research. Software manufacturers should have no problem with the database aspects of this, though reporting and charting modules would be challenging.<br />
From the research side I long for a program that allows me to link individuals without forcing them into a parent/child or spousal relationship. It would allow me to connect families that migrate together, individuals recorded in the same households in census records,  or act as witnesses for legal documents, non-custodial guardians (women frequently were not the legal guardians of their children), etc. I&#8217;d be delighted with a report that would simply list linked individuals.<br />
Researcher defined links would work from a family history perspective as well. One could link individuals to their families of choice while still showing their families of origin or show friendships that are more important than familial relationships in some cases.</p>
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