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		<title>By: Sharon Sergeant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Sergeant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great series. Glad it has sparked a lot of thoughtful interaction. 

I did however spit my coffee out when I read the Rupert Murdock reference from last year. 

The question of who or what constitutes a professional is old for me, partly because I am old :) 

Also because I have worked in many emerging fields. 

In the  decade I spent working with lawyers and accountants as a software developer, I was told that there were only three &quot;professions,&quot; theirs and that of doctors. Yet they would make jokes about the &quot;oldest profession.&quot; 

Words are elastic.

But every time a journalist says or writes &quot;primary sources,&quot; it is like nails on a blackboard for me. 

I have learned analysis techniques from the methods and standards developed by the genealogy community that I have not found as standards in many other fields and &quot;professions.&quot;

Let&#039;s talk about value, the value of genealogy to other fields. That is where I think the growth will come.

Sharon]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great series. Glad it has sparked a lot of thoughtful interaction. </p>
<p>I did however spit my coffee out when I read the Rupert Murdock reference from last year. </p>
<p>The question of who or what constitutes a professional is old for me, partly because I am old <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Also because I have worked in many emerging fields. </p>
<p>In the  decade I spent working with lawyers and accountants as a software developer, I was told that there were only three &#8220;professions,&#8221; theirs and that of doctors. Yet they would make jokes about the &#8220;oldest profession.&#8221; </p>
<p>Words are elastic.</p>
<p>But every time a journalist says or writes &#8220;primary sources,&#8221; it is like nails on a blackboard for me. </p>
<p>I have learned analysis techniques from the methods and standards developed by the genealogy community that I have not found as standards in many other fields and &#8220;professions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about value, the value of genealogy to other fields. That is where I think the growth will come.</p>
<p>Sharon</p>
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		<title>By: Rorey Cathcart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rorey Cathcart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ugh! What a terrible time to have been off the grid for a week. I missed this invaluable conversation. Thank you, Thomas, for this amazing series of posts. I am currently transitioning. Determining what I &#039;need&#039; to do versus what I most &#039;like&#039; to do has been slowing me down. Your posts on income vs expense and value perceptions were particularly enlightening.

To Dee Dee&#039;s point, I spent an inordinate amount of time deciding whether to put &#039;professional genealogist&#039; on my business card. I have been doing serious genealogy for myself and helping others free for years. I am now hanging out my shingle. However, I&#039;m not yet making money and I&#039;m not certified by any accreditation organization. I believe I am doing professional quality work but that I haven&#039;t yet earned the right to call myself that. I simply put &#039;genealogist&#039; on my card for now. There are too many people in this industry I respect to claim myself in their league. I hope to get there, but I know I&#039;m not there yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh! What a terrible time to have been off the grid for a week. I missed this invaluable conversation. Thank you, Thomas, for this amazing series of posts. I am currently transitioning. Determining what I &#8216;need&#8217; to do versus what I most &#8216;like&#8217; to do has been slowing me down. Your posts on income vs expense and value perceptions were particularly enlightening.</p>
<p>To Dee Dee&#8217;s point, I spent an inordinate amount of time deciding whether to put &#8216;professional genealogist&#8217; on my business card. I have been doing serious genealogy for myself and helping others free for years. I am now hanging out my shingle. However, I&#8217;m not yet making money and I&#8217;m not certified by any accreditation organization. I believe I am doing professional quality work but that I haven&#8217;t yet earned the right to call myself that. I simply put &#8216;genealogist&#8217; on my card for now. There are too many people in this industry I respect to claim myself in their league. I hope to get there, but I know I&#8217;m not there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/money-2012-update/#comment-11745</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for leading the way again this year, giving everyone plenty of food for thought. Baby steps but we&#039;ll get there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for leading the way again this year, giving everyone plenty of food for thought. Baby steps but we&#8217;ll get there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bill (William L.</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/money-2012-update/#comment-11744</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bill (William L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been away this week and did not participate in the discussion. However, I do want to express my appreciation for your contributions and your transparency in those contributions. You leading these discussions is very valuable. I&#039;ve also had a chance to read Michael Hait&#039;s comments which I also find extremely useful. Thank you, again, for continuing these important discussions, for the benefit of the entire genealogical community. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been away this week and did not participate in the discussion. However, I do want to express my appreciation for your contributions and your transparency in those contributions. You leading these discussions is very valuable. I&#8217;ve also had a chance to read Michael Hait&#8217;s comments which I also find extremely useful. Thank you, again, for continuing these important discussions, for the benefit of the entire genealogical community. <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dee Dee King, CG</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/money-2012-update/#comment-11743</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Dee King, CG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas, &quot;How we see ourselves as well as how we are perceived by the public as genealogists,&quot; hit on a very important issue. One part of that has been the age-old discussion of what the term professional genealogist means.

Some in the field insist the term professional genealogist applies to anyone who strives for and achieves professional standards and quality in their work.  Others in the field go with the more traditional definition that a professional is someone who works, not as a hobbyist, but rather as someone engaged in making a living from the field.

IRS certainly is one agency that clearly defines professionals, especially for hobbtists who are trying to write off expenses. ;-)  Ask just about &quot;anyone on the street&quot; and I bet you&#039;d find few folks, if any, who believe a professional genealogist is the first example and a huge majority, if not all, who would consider a professional genealogist to be the latter example.

Nothing will ever stop just anyone from calling themselves a professional genealogist.  But our profession sometimes appears to have its head in a cloud that the term professional has a different meaning in our world than it does in other professions. Folks can pretty well define a professional golfer, professional football player, professional dog walker, professional mechanic.  But the mere attempt to discuss the issue in our profession causes a firestorm.  One thing that might improve our perception by the public would be defining our profession and its specialties.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, &#8220;How we see ourselves as well as how we are perceived by the public as genealogists,&#8221; hit on a very important issue. One part of that has been the age-old discussion of what the term professional genealogist means.</p>
<p>Some in the field insist the term professional genealogist applies to anyone who strives for and achieves professional standards and quality in their work.  Others in the field go with the more traditional definition that a professional is someone who works, not as a hobbyist, but rather as someone engaged in making a living from the field.</p>
<p>IRS certainly is one agency that clearly defines professionals, especially for hobbtists who are trying to write off expenses. <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Ask just about &#8220;anyone on the street&#8221; and I bet you&#8217;d find few folks, if any, who believe a professional genealogist is the first example and a huge majority, if not all, who would consider a professional genealogist to be the latter example.</p>
<p>Nothing will ever stop just anyone from calling themselves a professional genealogist.  But our profession sometimes appears to have its head in a cloud that the term professional has a different meaning in our world than it does in other professions. Folks can pretty well define a professional golfer, professional football player, professional dog walker, professional mechanic.  But the mere attempt to discuss the issue in our profession causes a firestorm.  One thing that might improve our perception by the public would be defining our profession and its specialties.</p>
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		<title>By: Genea-Opportunities - 2012 Update &#124; GeneaBloggers</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/money-2012-update/#comment-11742</link>
		<dc:creator>Genea-Opportunities - 2012 Update &#124; GeneaBloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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