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		<title>By: Follow-up: Code of Conduct &#124; GeneaBloggers</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4281</link>
		<dc:creator>Follow-up: Code of Conduct &#124; GeneaBloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 22:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] want to post a brief follow-up to an article entitled Code of Conduct posted here at GeneaBloggers on Thursday 29 April [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Susan A. Kitchens</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan A. Kitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I&#039;ve been watching the history of blogging for the last 10  years (and ) and there&#039;ve been egregious examples in the past. (see the &quot;Controversy&quot; section in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sierra&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt; --and all the footnoted linked articles)

There&#039;ve been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cyberjournalist.net/news/000215.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogger codes of ethics&lt;/a&gt;.

There are best practices that we can discuss and adhere to.

This kinda thing has been going on for as long as online communities have been around.

I like the saying done by The Well: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.well.com/yoyow.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YOYOW: You Own Your Own Words&lt;/a&gt; (Search in Google for the phrase &quot;you own your own words&quot; for more). When it comes to matters of plagiarism, there&#039;s a downside. 

Communities talk about the values that they share.

This is a fun and wild and wooly sphere. In time, best practices emerge. 

I&#039;m all for the occasional statement affirming those practices that are agreed to be best, ethical, and moral.

But codifying them? eh, not so much. Turning them into a boundary that declares these people as &quot;inside&quot; and these other people as &quot;outside&quot;? See yawl later, I got other things to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. I&#8217;ve been watching the history of blogging for the last 10  years (and ) and there&#8217;ve been egregious examples in the past. (see the &#8220;Controversy&#8221; section in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sierra" rel="nofollow">this wikipedia entry</a> &#8211;and all the footnoted linked articles)</p>
<p>There&#8217;ve been <a href="http://www.cyberjournalist.net/news/000215.php" rel="nofollow">blogger codes of ethics</a>.</p>
<p>There are best practices that we can discuss and adhere to.</p>
<p>This kinda thing has been going on for as long as online communities have been around.</p>
<p>I like the saying done by The Well: <a href="http://www.well.com/yoyow.html" rel="nofollow">YOYOW: You Own Your Own Words</a> (Search in Google for the phrase &#8220;you own your own words&#8221; for more). When it comes to matters of plagiarism, there&#8217;s a downside. </p>
<p>Communities talk about the values that they share.</p>
<p>This is a fun and wild and wooly sphere. In time, best practices emerge. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for the occasional statement affirming those practices that are agreed to be best, ethical, and moral.</p>
<p>But codifying them? eh, not so much. Turning them into a boundary that declares these people as &#8220;inside&#8221; and these other people as &#8220;outside&#8221;? See yawl later, I got other things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4279</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite frankly I am shocked at the number of people that think this is a good idea. I think John&#039;s and Mavis&#039; comments sum up most of my thoughts. I will continue to write about whatever interests me and if religion, politics, grandchildren or gardening creep in that&#039;s OK, it&#039;s my blog. I enjoy Carnivals but I can pick and chose which I participate in. I will not be blogging on any topic just because someone else thinks I should. If I happen across any &quot;isms&quot; I will either delete them or click away. There are a couple of blogs that I am not comfortable commenting on, so I don&#039;t. Their loss, not mine!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly I am shocked at the number of people that think this is a good idea. I think John&#8217;s and Mavis&#8217; comments sum up most of my thoughts. I will continue to write about whatever interests me and if religion, politics, grandchildren or gardening creep in that&#8217;s OK, it&#8217;s my blog. I enjoy Carnivals but I can pick and chose which I participate in. I will not be blogging on any topic just because someone else thinks I should. If I happen across any &#8220;isms&#8221; I will either delete them or click away. There are a couple of blogs that I am not comfortable commenting on, so I don&#8217;t. Their loss, not mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky Wiseman</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4278</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky Wiseman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it *REALLY* necessary to have a Code of Conduct in order to blog about genealogy or anything else for that matter? I think not. If, as a &quot;member&quot; of GeneaBloggers I must restrict my blog content to just genealogy then I would no longer be a &quot;member&quot; - I haven&#039;t written a genealogy blog post since October 2009 but still consider myself a genea-blogger. I made the decision to not create a separate blog for my journey when I started out in September. I felt that if my existing readers were interested in my travels they would continue to read. In fact, my readership has increased, not gone down because of that decision. 

It seems to me that the &quot;Golden Rule&quot; should apply in blogging as it does in other areas of life. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Simple. Effective. And a great &quot;rule&quot; to live by.

The idea of making GeneaBloggers a &quot;formal&quot; community has been discussed before. Personally, I like it the way it is - an informal, loose-knit group of people blogging about something they love. Simple. Effective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it *REALLY* necessary to have a Code of Conduct in order to blog about genealogy or anything else for that matter? I think not. If, as a &#8220;member&#8221; of GeneaBloggers I must restrict my blog content to just genealogy then I would no longer be a &#8220;member&#8221; &#8211; I haven&#8217;t written a genealogy blog post since October 2009 but still consider myself a genea-blogger. I made the decision to not create a separate blog for my journey when I started out in September. I felt that if my existing readers were interested in my travels they would continue to read. In fact, my readership has increased, not gone down because of that decision. </p>
<p>It seems to me that the &#8220;Golden Rule&#8221; should apply in blogging as it does in other areas of life. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Simple. Effective. And a great &#8220;rule&#8221; to live by.</p>
<p>The idea of making GeneaBloggers a &#8220;formal&#8221; community has been discussed before. Personally, I like it the way it is &#8211; an informal, loose-knit group of people blogging about something they love. Simple. Effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4277</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 03:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blogging should not be regulated by a code of conduct, no matter the topic. However, if you wish to enforce a code of conduct as part of membership into a particular group such as the geneabloggers, I see no issue with that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blogging should not be regulated by a code of conduct, no matter the topic. However, if you wish to enforce a code of conduct as part of membership into a particular group such as the geneabloggers, I see no issue with that.</p>
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		<title>By: TransDutch</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4276</link>
		<dc:creator>TransDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are at least two communities that are being confused with this discussion I think.

The community of geneabloggers defined by &quot;People who blog about genealogy.&quot;  The idea of a &#039;Code of Conduct&#039; being developed for this amorphous group of people leads to the question &quot;who has the right to do so?&quot;  Who are the leaders, and when did we vote on them?  I know I never got a ballot.

And a community defined by this blog, owned by Thomas.  The &#039;tagline&#039; for the blog is &quot;The genealogy community&#039;s resource for blogging.&quot;  So it appears he looks at his blog as a resource for the amorphous community defined above -- not as a community separate in itself.

As Michael Hait states, Thomas certainly has a right to decide which bloggers he includes in his Genealogy Blog Listing. And he can come up with any guidelines he likes for that listing.  And make them public, or not.  It is his blog, and his decision.

However, I&#039;ve been a member of the genealogy blogging community since April of 2007, and object strongly if Irish Mason really believes that Thomas created this community with this website. - as Geneabloggers.com was created in January of 2009. The genealogy blogging community was around long before that.  Before even I came on board.

It *IS* my *RIGHT* to blog about anything I want to blog about in any way I see fit.  Thomas, nor anyone else, has the right to take that right away from me  (Except for the government, if I break any laws, or the host of my blog, if I violate any of their rules.)

The only &quot;Privilege&quot; that Thomas has any control over is whether or not we get listed in his list of blogs.  Just as Chris Dunham has control over who he lists in his Genealogy Blog Finder: http://blogfinder.genealogue.com/  and just as any blogger has control over who they list in their blogroll.

Thomas isn&#039;t my king.  I think he has great insight, and I have been following, and enjoying, his posts on this and his other blogs for awhile.  His, and a hundred other geneabloggers.  But he doesn&#039;t have the standing to create a Code of Conduct I have to sign before I can blog about genealogy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are at least two communities that are being confused with this discussion I think.</p>
<p>The community of geneabloggers defined by &#8220;People who blog about genealogy.&#8221;  The idea of a &#8216;Code of Conduct&#8217; being developed for this amorphous group of people leads to the question &#8220;who has the right to do so?&#8221;  Who are the leaders, and when did we vote on them?  I know I never got a ballot.</p>
<p>And a community defined by this blog, owned by Thomas.  The &#8216;tagline&#8217; for the blog is &#8220;The genealogy community&#8217;s resource for blogging.&#8221;  So it appears he looks at his blog as a resource for the amorphous community defined above &#8212; not as a community separate in itself.</p>
<p>As Michael Hait states, Thomas certainly has a right to decide which bloggers he includes in his Genealogy Blog Listing. And he can come up with any guidelines he likes for that listing.  And make them public, or not.  It is his blog, and his decision.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve been a member of the genealogy blogging community since April of 2007, and object strongly if Irish Mason really believes that Thomas created this community with this website. &#8211; as Geneabloggers.com was created in January of 2009. The genealogy blogging community was around long before that.  Before even I came on board.</p>
<p>It *IS* my *RIGHT* to blog about anything I want to blog about in any way I see fit.  Thomas, nor anyone else, has the right to take that right away from me  (Except for the government, if I break any laws, or the host of my blog, if I violate any of their rules.)</p>
<p>The only &#8220;Privilege&#8221; that Thomas has any control over is whether or not we get listed in his list of blogs.  Just as Chris Dunham has control over who he lists in his Genealogy Blog Finder: <a href="http://blogfinder.genealogue.com/" rel="nofollow">http://blogfinder.genealogue.com/</a>  and just as any blogger has control over who they list in their blogroll.</p>
<p>Thomas isn&#8217;t my king.  I think he has great insight, and I have been following, and enjoying, his posts on this and his other blogs for awhile.  His, and a hundred other geneabloggers.  But he doesn&#8217;t have the standing to create a Code of Conduct I have to sign before I can blog about genealogy.</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Mason</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4275</link>
		<dc:creator>Irish Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve already put in my two cents and more ... and included a bit of levity about my TWITTER.  I don&#039;t blog about non genealogy things in my genealogy blogs but that&#039;s my personal choice - and may change on a whim.  ;)

I just want to add my thumbs up to what Michael Hait wrote.  That&#039;s common sense too.  It&#039;s not a right we have to be a part of this community - it&#039;s a privilege.  We wouldn&#039;t have that privilege if Thomas hadn&#039;t started this community.  Many thanks to him for all he&#039;s done - non stop working it seems like!

I don&#039;t know the issues with Terry but it&#039;s interesting to note that he&#039;s obviously still following geneabloggers.  ;)  It&#039;s a great community! 

Great input, Myrt!  I always love reading your thoughts!  Great input from everyone!  

At the moment I&#039;m really glad I left running that surname list I mentioned.  Even though I dearly loved it with a deep passion - the constant overstepping of boundaries by listmembers wore me out.  I&#039;m still hiding from them.  LOL  I don&#039;t want to see Thomas ride off into the sunset as I did. Just sayin....

Common sense &amp; respect always strike me as the logical &quot;answers&quot;.  Unfortunately there are people - and we have to accept that fact - that will overstep in any group.  

Whatever you feel you need to do, Thomas - I support you.  And I thank you MUCHOS!  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already put in my two cents and more &#8230; and included a bit of levity about my TWITTER.  I don&#8217;t blog about non genealogy things in my genealogy blogs but that&#8217;s my personal choice &#8211; and may change on a whim.  <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I just want to add my thumbs up to what Michael Hait wrote.  That&#8217;s common sense too.  It&#8217;s not a right we have to be a part of this community &#8211; it&#8217;s a privilege.  We wouldn&#8217;t have that privilege if Thomas hadn&#8217;t started this community.  Many thanks to him for all he&#8217;s done &#8211; non stop working it seems like!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the issues with Terry but it&#8217;s interesting to note that he&#8217;s obviously still following geneabloggers.  <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s a great community! </p>
<p>Great input, Myrt!  I always love reading your thoughts!  Great input from everyone!  </p>
<p>At the moment I&#8217;m really glad I left running that surname list I mentioned.  Even though I dearly loved it with a deep passion &#8211; the constant overstepping of boundaries by listmembers wore me out.  I&#8217;m still hiding from them.  LOL  I don&#8217;t want to see Thomas ride off into the sunset as I did. Just sayin&#8230;.</p>
<p>Common sense &amp; respect always strike me as the logical &#8220;answers&#8221;.  Unfortunately there are people &#8211; and we have to accept that fact &#8211; that will overstep in any group.  </p>
<p>Whatever you feel you need to do, Thomas &#8211; I support you.  And I thank you MUCHOS!  <img src='http://geneabloggers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Yvonne Theria</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4274</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn Yvonne Theria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Comment and give feedback not just to other members but also to genealogy vendors and others involved in the field.&quot;

Although I&#039;ve left literally hundreds of comments on fellow geneablogger sites, this is a pleasure - not  a commitment. 

Genealogy vendors ??? 
Why should I commit to leave feedback to &quot;vendors and others involved in the field? 

Is Geneabloggers now a commercial operation! Did I miss something?

Confused in Montreal]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Comment and give feedback not just to other members but also to genealogy vendors and others involved in the field.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;ve left literally hundreds of comments on fellow geneablogger sites, this is a pleasure &#8211; not  a commitment. </p>
<p>Genealogy vendors ???<br />
Why should I commit to leave feedback to &#8220;vendors and others involved in the field? </p>
<p>Is Geneabloggers now a commercial operation! Did I miss something?</p>
<p>Confused in Montreal</p>
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		<title>By: Evelyn Yvonne Theria</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4273</link>
		<dc:creator>Evelyn Yvonne Theria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I support most of what is in the Geneabloggers Code of Conduct above, and the good intentions of it, I am very apprehensive about the document in its present form for several reasons:
1. As a free speech issue (from a Canadian perspective)  I would not be part of a group if there were a rule about not giving my opinion on controversial issues - especially since I presume that it is an American board that is going to decide what is controversial or not.  I have rarely broached controversial (?) issues (e.g. Native issues in connection with Mohawk genealogy posts, and the restart of abestos mining in relation to settlement of that area) a few times, but I have NO INTENTION of submitting to censorship of any kind. 
2. If you put this in place as a formal code with a person and/or Board in charge, then there is going to be an expectation from members that you will act on this - swiftly and competently. Do we want to open up this can of worms?
Evelyn
A Canadian Family]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I support most of what is in the Geneabloggers Code of Conduct above, and the good intentions of it, I am very apprehensive about the document in its present form for several reasons:<br />
1. As a free speech issue (from a Canadian perspective)  I would not be part of a group if there were a rule about not giving my opinion on controversial issues &#8211; especially since I presume that it is an American board that is going to decide what is controversial or not.  I have rarely broached controversial (?) issues (e.g. Native issues in connection with Mohawk genealogy posts, and the restart of abestos mining in relation to settlement of that area) a few times, but I have NO INTENTION of submitting to censorship of any kind.<br />
2. If you put this in place as a formal code with a person and/or Board in charge, then there is going to be an expectation from members that you will act on this &#8211; swiftly and competently. Do we want to open up this can of worms?<br />
Evelyn<br />
A Canadian Family</p>
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		<title>By: Felicia Mathis</title>
		<link>http://geneabloggers.com/a-code-of-conduct/#comment-4272</link>
		<dc:creator>Felicia Mathis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not understanding!! No matter where you go and what you do in life there is always a Code of Conduct. If not professionally but morally. 

Although the situation that was done was done privately, but when it became public there was a need for some action.

Thomas, I think the code is an excellent idea. It shows a paticular standard that we as Bloggers expect and violation will not be tolerated.

Now for those that is so concerned about censorship and what you can and cant put on you&#039;re Blog:

1) you&#039;re Blog is you&#039;re Blog. You can write abt whatever you like and If I don&#039;t like it I won&#039;t read it.

2) If you are so worried abt Tweeting something other than Genealogy, form a different Twitter account and make it personal.

There goes that Common Sense again. Some have turned this into an issue other than what it is:

There are rules to follow whether in life or in the Genealogy Community. You can follow the rules or move on. 

Like I say you are in a Community and if you don&#039;t like it MOVE!! Just like you do in you&#039;re own neighborhood!!
Felicia]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not understanding!! No matter where you go and what you do in life there is always a Code of Conduct. If not professionally but morally. </p>
<p>Although the situation that was done was done privately, but when it became public there was a need for some action.</p>
<p>Thomas, I think the code is an excellent idea. It shows a paticular standard that we as Bloggers expect and violation will not be tolerated.</p>
<p>Now for those that is so concerned about censorship and what you can and cant put on you&#8217;re Blog:</p>
<p>1) you&#8217;re Blog is you&#8217;re Blog. You can write abt whatever you like and If I don&#8217;t like it I won&#8217;t read it.</p>
<p>2) If you are so worried abt Tweeting something other than Genealogy, form a different Twitter account and make it personal.</p>
<p>There goes that Common Sense again. Some have turned this into an issue other than what it is:</p>
<p>There are rules to follow whether in life or in the Genealogy Community. You can follow the rules or move on. </p>
<p>Like I say you are in a Community and if you don&#8217;t like it MOVE!! Just like you do in you&#8217;re own neighborhood!!<br />
Felicia</p>
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